Jesus Fucking Christ
The moon turned red a few days ago and now it looks like Bush is getting another term. Can anyone say Apocolypse?
Let’s not forget about the other depressing results from yesterday:
Eleven States Approve Gay Marriage Ban
“Eleven states passed ballot measures banning gay marriage last night. Georgia and Ohio went furthest, banning all domestic partnership benefits for same-sex couples.”
Read the L.A. Times article here.
It’s time for NY to secede from the union.
I’m too young. I have the names of four non-voting residents, and it’s in the hall of my high school. Maybe I can Vote Kerry for all of them??
ohh shit so it looks like Kerry is in the lead I’m so into this alection even dough I don’t live in the U.S. im from the old Tijuana Mexico, someone told me about this page its fucking great keep on the good work seya! and go KERRY!! FUCK BUSH…
If Bush does get elected, I just hope that everyone that voted for him has at least one of their children drafted once it’s reintroduced.
Interesting how you lefties want it both ways. You say “count every vote”… then when they count the votes and you find that what the majority believes isn’t what you believe, you resort to Bush bashing and pessimism. America has spoken. The majority is conservative. Get over it. If you’re really intersted in healing our divided nation then stop the hate, stop the name calling, and learn to work WITH your conservative fellow Americans.
Hey Matt, just wanted to point out that those “conservative fellow Americans” have voted yes to young Americans dying in Irak for oil (think about it… oil!), to Irak civilians being killed by terrorists and American soldiers, for banning homosexual human rights practice, for the robbery that Republicans did on the past elections, for repression, for a government that steps on your basic liberties, for hatred, for inequality, for selfishness…. is that the America you really want?
So, I really feel people should care and make it harder for Republicans to impose their conservative points of view. I’m really ashamed of how many Americans can be so stupid as to vote for Bush again. And btw, I’m not an American, I’m a Peruvian that happens to love this blog since it was the freewilliamsburg webzine or whatever.
Wow chimba! Those are some pretty big charges there. I like that blood for oil one. That’s a lefty classic. I actually voted for hatred before I voted against it.
The problem with your view is that you equate opinions that differ from yours as being stupid. Did God come down and put his seal of approval on your opinions? By what authority do you claim that your values and views are superior to 58 million Americans? If you can’t site a mathematical equation or some law of the universe, then call it what it is, a difference of opinion. That’s why we vote, to make our opinions count. Look, my point is not to justify Bush’s policies on gay marraige or the Iraq war, I’m simply saying that in civilized societies we resolve our differences through the political process, not name calling, mud slinging, and hate speach. If there’s one lesson democrats should take away from this election it’s that you cannot win on a platform of hate.
And don’t try to make fun of my spelling either. Damn, I wish I had spell checker.
Hey Matt…I certainly don’t speak for all liberals but I think we’d be much more receptive to a genuine debate over conservative vs liberal ideas than what Bush/Cheney forcefed into the media echo chambers. I understand why you think that the Democrats ran on a platform of hate but I really think it was just Kerry “getting tough” because he was being drown out by some fairly banal Rove talking points. Bush won fair and square but I think that conservatives can do a lot better for themselves if they put a greater emphasis on policy and less on cheap imagery and religious manipulation.
Hey Jebus, I can’t tell you how refreshing it is to hear from someone (maybe on the left) whose statements aren’t contaminated with hatred. Hatred clouds perceptions and the left wing was consumed by it in this election. From a policy stand point I was probably 50/50 between Dems and Repubs. But the hatred propogated by the Dems (Kerry, Moore, Franken, and others) significantly swayed my vote towards the Repubs. and I believe many others made the same decision as well. I have no desire to associate myself or my vote with those who propogate hatred. I sincerely wish that this humorous, informative, and artistically valuable site would remove it’s blatantly hate driven slogans (i.e. Bush is a pig fucker, Bush hates freedom) and serve as a conduit for civilized debate among Americans and other nationalities.
Matt, actually you may have a strong point about the hatred issue. But… are people voting for Bush because of his values and because Kerry was the MC of hatred? Is being religious a requisite for being a good president? Didn’t Bush lie to Americans about Iraq and mass destruction weapons? Isn’t he lying when he says the Iraq situation is going well? Din’t he lie about Afganistan? Didn’t he lie when the ties about Halliburton and Bin Laden came out? Din’t he protect Saudi citizens before rasing hell over Arabic people in America? What values is the people voting for?
Hatred? Didn’t Bush bring hatred to the world? Didn’t he attacked civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan? Isn’t the American governement torturing Arabic and Muslim people in Guantanamo? Is Kerry’s “hatred” toward reps worse than that? Spare me, please.
And what I meant was that now that we know all the lies and repression and abuses Bush takes on Americans (not to say the world, that can’t vote, but if they could have Kerry would have won with 70% approval according to AP and, I think, Newsweek), one must be somehow not very intelligent (stupid?) to choose that path again.
You have to keep in mind that reps lie so much. They try to control the media (Fox News anybody?), they want all those religious conservatives to be like bricks on their wall (like Tipper Gore once did in the 80s… so dems have their burden too), they cheat on people registering to vote (check out past news at dullard.blogspot.com), they cheat on the Supreme Court (hello Mr. Scalia), etc., so sometimes the only way to take a claim against it is by overreacting, by shouting, by trying to get a voice from silence.
i.e. personally I think that Moore was way off the mark with Fahrenheit, a biased and boring movie that contained facts most people had heard before (and in many cases, dismissed as biased and unproven), and even distorted them towards his point of view. But in Bowling for C I think he had done a better effort, and despite his manipulations he had a strong point.
In the end, Matt, although democracy gives conservatives the right to go over human rights (Guantanamno, iraqui prisons), over the UN, asking for free trade abroad when America wants to have protection for their local businesses, fighting diplomatically with France for having the rights to rebuild Iraq (once that they destroyed it, come on!), stepping over gay rights, mother’s rights to abortion, declaring drugs illegal, censoring music, films, books, internet (ehem, and the second ammendment? and what will happen when reps get their new Supreme Court?), attacking your intimacy, even your life (i.e. military recruitment to be dead by, yeah, oil, or those health care failures), it also gives the rest of people the right to complain, to point out how their point of view restricts our point of view.
The main problem with conservatives is that they pretend to impose their point of views, when all that liberals want is the right to choose. In “liberal world”, a conservative can follow his beliefs, and nobody will complain, cuz he would have the right to choose. In “conservative world”, liberals will be opressed, cuz conservative will impose themselves. And nowadays, the rest of the world will be opressed too.
Hail W.
(sorry about the long comment, but this Bush thing just makes me mad)
“Lay off the pipe Chimba.”
Slow down with the gay stuff, EM. You know how unbecoming it is for your christian right peeps.